[Mc Douglas]

Well, I have the book about the never realized Star Trek: Phase 2 project which became "Star Trek: The motion picture". The way I see it, the series would have been one of the best Star Trek series. We would have a totaly different Star Trek today.

[johneh]

I think a lot of the PHASE II ideas got incorporated into TNG, which was defnitely the best TREK series (unless ENTERPRISE gets Season 5).

[SirPhilip86]

I wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway considering i was not born yet.

[Captain_Hair]

SirPhilip86, on May 6 2005, 12:15 AM, said:

I wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway considering i was not born yet.

Well, you probably would be able to catch reruns or DVDs if it was ever produced.

[CessnaDriver]

Mc Douglas, on Apr 21 2005, 08:03 PM, said:

Well, I have the book about the never realized Star Trek: Phase 2 project which became "Star Trek: The motion picture". The way I see it, the series would have been one of the best Star Trek series. We would have a totaly different Star Trek today. 

The movies were fine. But they were few and far between. The cast was still fairly young and we really could of had something there, wasted years and years in between movies. I much would have rather had a new series with the TOS crew, then they could have done some movies like TNG did. Then TNG could have came next.

TNG used some of the scripts from phase II I believe.

[Hayddon]

CessnaDriver, on May 6 2005, 12:19 AM, said:

The movies were fine. But they were few and far between. The cast was still fairly young and we really could of had something there, wasted years and years in between movies. I much would have rather had a new series with the TOS crew, then they could have done some movies like TNG did. Then TNG could have came next.

TNG used some of the scripts from phase II I believe.

Here and there they used it in TNG.
Allot was used though in the motion picture.
I need to find that book again for phase II


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[leandar]

CessnaDriver, on May 5 2005, 11:19 PM, said:

The movies were fine. But they were few and far between. The cast was still fairly young and we really could of had something there, wasted years and years in between movies. I much would have rather had a new series with the TOS crew, then they could have done some movies like TNG did. Then TNG could have came next.

It's unlikely I believe, that Trek would have lasted long. The series was scheduled for Saturday nights, at a time when the target audience wouldn't be home. If you find the Phase II book, the author himself says that Trek might have died after a year or two if this series had happened and that its reanimation as ST:TMP was likely the best way to go and I think it's safe to say he's right.

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TNG used some of the scripts from phase II I believe.

"The Child" and "Devil's Due" were rewrites of Phase II scripts. And obviously "In Thy Image" was the early version of ST:TMP.

The Phase II book has a script for "In Thy Image" and "The Child," and the latter is better than the TNG episode, which was also good.

That wasn't all that was lifted from Phase II. The concept of the first officer leading landing party missions came from Phase II. Riker and Troi's romance were a direct descendent of Decker and Ilia, right down to Riker leaving Betazed without saying goodbye to Troi just like Decker left Delta IV without saying goodbye to Ilia. Also, Ilia's empathic powers were supposed to be shown much more in the series and she would have eventually become an unofficial counselor for the ship, just like Troi. Also, Data's search for humanity is a parallel to how Xon was to have been, a full Vulcan trying to let some emotions out in order to better fit in with the rest of the crew.

I'm sure there are other examples but that's all I can think of now.

[Maco Captain]

I think that the movie helped to re-ignite the franchise and was pretty good.

[JulesLuvsShinzon]

With the benefit of hindsight they did better with the movie. From what I've seen of the concept art for Phase II and the very few photos around of ~ particularly ~ Xon, it didn't seem to be different enough from TOS to bring new audiences in, but annoyingly different enough for TOS fans to have rejected it outright because they would have been hankering after the original crew ~ which in the end was what they got! In fact ~ to coin a phrase ~ with the run of TOS movies and TNG, we got the best of both worlds!

[Nickolov]

It could be interesting, why not? But I think they did better with the movie. As far as I know, Mr.Nimoy didn't wanted to be in Phase II, so Star Trek without Spock? I don't think so.

[chrisis1033]

From reading the book Phase II The Lost Series I really think this series would have kicked ass. Granted that Spock was not going to be part of the crew... however who knows what really would have happened with Nimoy/Spock if the series would have come closer to being aired.

The uniforms rocked. The Refit Enterprise (very similar to the Movie Enterprise) looked beautiful. The sample scripts included seems to be good stories.

[Greystone]

Didn't seem much different from the original to me, replace Spock with Xon, and you've basically got the same mix. Even the 'bible' staes the McCoy Xon relationship was identical to that of McCoy Spock.