Belfear, on 16 June 2010 - 08:39 AM, said:
I believe what we were trying to emphasise was NOT 'omg! need more female!' but that this is a FAN-MADE character.
Way to totally miss the point >.>
We didn't miss the point; rather, we raised a new one. We say that more attention should be paid to the existing female characters that we love, rather than (or in addition to) a new character. The point is that the characters that we love, whether they're male or female, have been around since the RTSes, and we've loved them since we played those games. I'm all for new characters, but I can't possibly see one who is introduced in the Cataclysm to hold as much sway with me as, say, Maiev Shadowsong or Thrall. So, if I may speak for EE here, we would rather existing characters be given this kind of attention.
As for Maiev Shadowsong... 1: she's not dead, she's in a jail in Shadowmoon Valley called 'The Warden's Cage', and 2: She's not a racial class leader.... Sylvanas is the only leader of a race of beings on Azeroth all of her own... and let's face it; all that she's concerned about is revenge, revenge, revenge.
Actually Maiev participated in the raid on the Black Temple and helped to kill Illidan, after which she disappeared when she realized her only purpose in life was finished. And no, she's not a racial leader, I just brought her up because EE said, "maybe they could just give more attention to some old female characters."
As far as Sylvanas goes: Captain Ahab was only concerned with revenge. So was Hamlet. Doesn't mean they're not great characters in their own right.
She likes making things explode and counting her coins!
What goblin doesn't?
What is there not to take seriously about goblins?! It's like saying that you don't take Ferengi seriously -.- and we all know what happens when you do that!
Well, when it comes to anything not directly related to business, one should never take a Ferengi seriously. Goblins are
comic relief characters, yes, but so are gnomes. That doesn't mean they won't have a great impact upon the history of the world, and the lore.
ensign edwards, on 16 June 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:
Admittedly, it's just a guess on my part, but it's a pretty safe bet when you consider how things turned out between her and Illidan (IMO, anyway). I picture her wandering into the wilds of Outland and never returning.
Well, I picture her doing that but then returning SOMEHOW MORE BADASS THEN EVER BEFORE. I will honestly be extraordinarily disappointed if I never see her again. It's a good opportunity to make the character into something... more. And then maybe you wouldn't complain about her being one-dimensional.
Kirok, on 16 June 2010 - 02:30 PM, said:
Perhaps, but the point of this thread is that it is a fan produced character. I've never played WoW (because they told me that the dwarf name Grumpy had been taken) but I've had a lot of interaction with my two scion about the game, and the pertinent fact of the original post IMO was that the character they've created is a fun and three-dimensional character rather than the fact that she is female. Be that as it may, my point is that fan interaction like this is something that MMOG's should foster rather than resist.
Okay, to finally offer my opinions on the original subject of the thread (probably wasn't the best idea to do this at the bottom of the post):
I trust Blizzard far too much to lend any support to this. If they want to include it, they can include it, but if they refuse, then they shouldn't even have to list reasons why. They've successfully made multiple games filled with rich fantasy lore that is some of the best in the world, and they have the final say on the subject no matter what. Honestly, I feel a little bit of trepidation if they do include it, because I don't trust fans to create the lore... that's not their place at all. Leave it to fan fiction. I want Blizzard to create a character because the character fits within the world, not because thousands of fans clamored for it until they finally gave in. And in this situation, if the fans have their way, there won't really ever be a 100% possiblity that Blizzard didn't do it just to appease.
I'm saying I want my Warcraft in a 100% pure, distilled form, and I don't trust fans to make the quality of stuff that Blizzard does. I have no doubt Blizz could make the character work, but fans should really only be consulted when discussing gameplay, or balance, or things like that, not story. That's the writer's job.
This post has been edited by Apocalypse: 16 June 2010 - 06:03 PM