[Apocalypse]

Also, "basement dweller" is an insulting stereotype of nerds and geeks in general.

[Radardog]

I'm a "basement dweller," but only because that's where I live... you know... with my family... which I pay a lot of money every month for... like this thing called an apartment...

But the idea that I live there due to my interest in Star Trek is pretty insulting.

[Kora' Tor]

Anyhoo...I voted Exceeded my expectations. 

Because it did. 

[Captain_THC]

I have my workshop in the basement, where I spend most of my time... presently, all of it in fact. Can I count myself as a full member of "basement dwellers - Trekkie society?"

[ensign edwards]

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I just really wish they just continued Enterprise instead.

QFT.

[ChristopherPike]

Ultimately disappointed. But then that's just me.

There hasn't been this much widespread positive reaction to Trek since, well ever actually (even First Contact took a few critical knocks). I just wish I could reconcile all this love with the film I sat through.

[Capt.T]

This movie vastly exceeded my expectations. From growing up with Star Trek and in a so called "digital" age, I can tell you that they were pretty darn high going and completely satisfied when coming out.

[Cougar]

Apocalypse, on May 26 2009, 11:04 PM, said:

Also, "basement dweller" is an insulting stereotype of nerds and geeks in general.

Perhaps, but then the person offended is acknowledging that they are a nerd or geek, which is generally used derogatorily anyways.

My point was certain people took things way too seriously and weren't giving the movie a chance, talked about boycotting, and were very cynical- which is alright, but I thought star trek was about being optimistic?

[Dayton3]

Disappointed.

I did not expect it to be very good but I figured at least the space battles would be interesting.

I was wrong.

[Terilynn]

Cougar, on May 27 2009, 04:51 PM, said:

Perhaps, but then the person offended is acknowledging that they are a nerd or geek, which is generally used derogatorily anyways.

My point was certain people took things way too seriously and weren't giving the movie a chance, talked about boycotting, and were very cynical- which is alright, but I thought star trek was about being optimistic?

Yep. Star Trek is supposed to show about humanity reaching for and achieving its potential - Humanity means striving to become better than what we are.

My favorite definition of geek: "A person who has chosen concentration rather than conformity; one who passionately pursues skill (especially technical skill) and imagination, not mainstream social acceptance."


Nothing derogatory there.

[Radardog]

My friends and I broke it down over the weekend like this:

Geek - Someone with intense technical skill or in-depth knowledge of a subject, but also has social skills,
Nerd - Someone with intense technical skill or in-depth knowledge of a subject, but no social skills.
Dork - Someone with no social skills and no technical kill or knowledge.

So, it's not the guys who talk about Star Trek because they know a lot about it, but know when to stop and can have other conversations about things as well that are real dorks. It's the guys who ACT like they know a lot about Star Trek, but most of it comes from assumption and haven't seen enough of it to really understand. Like a guy I know who thinks B-4 in Nemesis is Lore. And not only because he made an honest mistake. He'll actually argue his point.

I certainly don't have a problem with being labeled a geek. But I also don't appreciate being referred to as a "basement dweller" because I actually care about something more than Cougar does.

[Apocalypse]

Cougar, on May 27 2009, 06:51 PM, said:

Perhaps, but then the person offended is acknowledging that they are a nerd or geek, which is generally used derogatorily anyways.

Au contraire, I fully acknowledge I am both a nerd and a geek (but a nerd first). There's nothing derogatory about it in this day and age.

And please do not make me break out the nerd/geek argument. I've done years (quite literally) of research on this very subject, and I believe my own definitions to be infallible. I'll share them if you wish, but I've already been down this road in another thread.

[Terilynn]

Apocalypse, on May 27 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

Au contraire, I fully acknowledge I am both a nerd and a geek (but a nerd first). There's nothing derogatory about it in this day and age.

And please do not make me break out the nerd/geek argument. I've done years (quite literally) of research on this very subject, and I believe my own definitions to be infallible. I'll share them if you wish, but I've already been down this road in another thread.

I can vouch for this. I believe it was a Ten Forward thread...

[Apocalypse]

Terilynn, on May 27 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

I can vouch for this. I believe it was a Ten Forward thread...

Maybe the Writing Contest thread.

[trekkin']

Cougar, on May 26 2009, 10:15 PM, said:

It's only a personal attack if you consider yourself a basement dweller lol.

Hi Cougar!! Never see you much...even though we both have been here for years!! You must be gigantic by now!! I lived in a basement for years..It was my basement loft apartment in Brooklyn!!

Now I live in a Ranch house...somehow it is much more dorky.

The movie exceeded my expectations.

[jonathan]

i liked it