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Finale Two-Parter: Favorite "First Time" Thing

Poll: Favorite "First Time" Thing (19 member(s) have cast votes)

In the Finale Two-Parter, what "first time" thing was your favorite?

  1. Human-Vulcan Hybrid (3 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  2. Earth Minister (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Colonel Green (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  4. Foundations of the Future Federation (7 votes [36.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.84%

  5. Carl Sagan Memorial on Mars (8 votes [42.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 05:23 PM

Season Four of Star Trek: Enterprise had a lot of introductions of alien races and famous people, mentionings of historic situations, and other stuff. In the Finale Two-Parter ("Demons" and "Terra Prime"), what "first time" thing was your favorite? You can only pick from the choices on the poll.

Human-Vulcan Hybrid:

This is the first time a human-vulcan hybrid was ever on Enterprise. Of course, the most famous one is Spock, from the original series, but he wasn't born yet in the year 2155.

Earth Minister:

I'm not sure why, but the leader of Earth was never shown before the episode "Demons".

Colonel Green:

Colonel Green is shown for the first time on a video recording that was made three years after the end of World War III.

Foundations of the Future Federation:

They never said the word "federation", but you know that's what they were talking about when they said "an alliance with other alien species". This two-parter paved the way for the creation of the United Federation of Planets, which exists in all of the other TV shows and movies.

Carl Sagan Memorial on Mars:

One of the Enterprise's shuttlepods flew over it when flying over the surface of Mars. It was a nice touch, don't you think?
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 05:33 PM

The Carl Sagan Memorial on Mars was my absolute favorite. I wsa so giidy when I saw that. :)
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 05:49 PM

the Foundations of the Future Federation was my favorite thing
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 07:12 PM

Just the fact that it was the first time the Moon and Mars were featured prominently in Trek is my favorite.
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Posted 22 April 2006 - 07:23 PM

the Human-Vulcan Hybrid one was my favorite but it was so sad. :(
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 09:42 AM

the Vulcan-human hybrid. i have one question: was spock the first hybrid?
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 12:36 PM

I actually liked Colonel Green because he was a pretty convincing villain played by a good actor. Its cool to see human conflict sometimes in Star Trek when humans are supposed to always get along.
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 09:04 PM

Went with "Foundations of the Federation" as I had hoped to see that since the begining of Enterprise. Seeing the Carl Sagan memorial and Colonial Green was pretty cool as well!
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:34 AM

View Postdominion_ruler, on Apr 24 2006, 02:38 PM, said:

I actually liked Colonel Green because he was a pretty convincing villain played by a good actor. Its cool to see human conflict sometimes in Star Trek when humans are supposed to always get along.


I think you might be getting Colonel Green mixed up with Paxton.

Paxton (played by Peter Weller) was the main enemy in the finale, not Colonel Green.
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 03:11 PM

View PostKyle Nin, on Apr 26 2006, 12:36 PM, said:

I think you might be getting Colonel Green mixed up with Paxton.

Paxton (played by Peter Weller) was the main enemy in the finale, not Colonel Green.

I think you are right, Colonel Green was the guy who played Tam Elbrain in TNG episode "Tin Man"???
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 05:21 PM

View Postdominion_ruler, on Apr 27 2006, 05:13 PM, said:

I think you are right, Colonel Green was the guy who played Tam Elbrain in TNG episode "Tin Man"???


No Nathan Samuels was played by Harry Groener who also played Tam Elbran. Colonel Green was the character on the monitor Paxton was watching in Demons.
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 06:15 PM

View PostMattJC, on Apr 27 2006, 07:23 PM, said:

No Nathan Samuels was played by Harry Groener who also played Tam Elbran.


You know what? You're right. I had no idea that was the same actor. (He's a lot older.)
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Posted 27 April 2006 - 06:21 PM

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 02:46 PM

This was tough. I think I get the biggest kick out of the Carl Sagan Memorial on Mars , though. I also am wondering whether Spock was stated as being the first Vulcan-Human hybrid, or not. That's what I wondered when the episodes originally aired. Or maybe the first surviving V-H hybrid.
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 10:32 AM

View PostHolodarlin, on Apr 28 2006, 04:48 PM, said:

This was tough. I think I get the biggest kick out of the Carl Sagan Memorial on Mars , though. I also am wondering whether Spock was stated as being the first Vulcan-Human hybrid, or not. That's what I wondered when the episodes originally aired. Or maybe the first surviving V-H hybrid.


You could also look at it this way: Trip and T'Pol's baby wasn't natural. It was genetically engineered by Paxton's scientists. Spock wasn't.
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 01:37 PM

I voted for 'Foundation for the Future Federation'. All the various alien delegates in the same room, then Archer's speech and applause. Reminiscent of Star Trek VI's climax.

If history hadn't been corrected, Lorien from 'E2' could've been considered the first human/vulcan hybrid.

I don't recall any line in Star Trek about Spock being the first cross breed. It might have been in the series guidelines but if it don't make the screen, it isn't canon. However, he was mentioned as the first Vulcan to serve in the Federation Starfleet. I can see how his father Sarek would have disapproved of that. In the eyes of Vulcans (especially the older ones), that service was probably still recognized as an organisation run by humans. As more alien races rise among the ranks that view changes over time.
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Posted 29 April 2006 - 02:31 PM

The Carl Sagan memorial with the rover was priceless.
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 08:09 PM

View PostMattJC, on Apr 27 2006, 07:23 PM, said:

No Nathan Samuels was played by Harry Groener who also played Tam Elbran. Colonel Green was the character on the monitor Paxton was watching in Demons.

I'm thinkin I need to watch this episode again.
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